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    Question 1980/81 Ducati MHR Looking for Current or Past Owners

    Hi,
    I am looking for anyone who currently owns, or has owned a 1980/81 Ducati Mike Hailwood Replica.
    I own a 198? MHR which sometime during it's life, someone has replaced the original fairing with a 1984/85 2 piece MHR Mille fairing. I want to restore the bike to it's original condition and am trying to find out at what frame number Ducati stopped using the 1 piece fairing and started to use the 2 piece fairing. All the restoration books and everyone who restores these bikes know that sometime during 1981 Ducati made the change to the 2 piece fairing, but when, nobody knows for certain. Looking through photos on forums and throughout the web I have found 3 with a 1 piece fairings and the rest with a 2 piece fairings. Hence my dilemma.
    My frame number is DM900SS*901044*
    Yes the prefix is correct. It does not appear in any of the many books available above Ducati restorations. It looks like there were about 100 bikes produced with this prefix. 3 changes seem to have occured during the use of this prefix. First the fairing changed from a 1 piece to a 2 piece, second the fuel filler cap changed from non-lockable to lockable, and thirdly the FPS wheels changed from gold with a Aluminium polished rim. to all gold.
    The ones I have found with a 1 piece fairing(this does not include the screen) are below 901021, and all with the 2 piece fairing are above this number. So if you own a 1981 MHR or did own one, please get in touch and let me know how close your chassis number is to mine and if it originally came with a 1 piece or 2 piece fairing. If it had the gold FPS wheels with polished Aluminium rims, and if it had the lockable or non-lockable fuel cap. I understand if you don't want to give me your chassis number, but I assure you I am not trying to clone a MHR. If I get it right, there should be a photo on my bike in it's current state attached to this post.
    My original UK registration is UNM269W. If you remember owning this particular bike, please get in touch with me.
    If I manage to figure out which was the last chassis number with a 1 piece fairing, I will post it to all Ducati forums so that future restorers know about it
    Thanks
    Allen
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    Hi, according to the list at http://www.bevelheaven.com/data-squarecase.htm the frame numbers 901043 and 48 are both Darmahs from 78.

    it says:900 MHR 1979 -1980 about 900201 * Motor and frame number range, 100 built
    It's hard to tell if that means the 100 after or before that number, but
    499 900 MHR 1981 DM900SS 901106 New Zealand is the earliest use of the DM900SS I can see.
    It's all a bit confusing.

    Do you think that you might possibly have a bitsa that has maybe been dropped and repaired with a later fairing?

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    Hi MartinW,
    Yes the Darmahs have similar frame numbers, but their prefex is DM860SS and this could be why they changed the prefix for the MHR's before going to DM900R. If you look a little closer on the bevelheaven list, you will find 6 MHR's all with the DM900SS prefix. besides 901106. This is the highest frame number with the DM900SS prefix. the 6 others are 901067, 901051, 901036 (which is incorrecly written as 9010036), 901093 and 901068, and then there is mine 901044. I know of 4 others with the same prefix. I agree, it's very confusing.
    According to Ian Falloons Authentic Restoration Guide for Ducati Twins,
    1979 The first 200 MHR's were frame DM860SS 900001 to 900200.
    1980 the next 100 MHR's were frame DM860SS 900201 to 900300 (built in 1979 but sold as 1980 models)
    1980 the next 447 MHR's were frame DM860SS 900301 to 900748
    Ian makes no mention of the following frame prefix, but does think that mine was built in 1980 with a 1 piece fairing, but doesn't give any justificaton for his thinking.
    1980/81 the next 100 or so appear to have frame DM900SS 901000 to 9011xx, early numbers had 1 piece fairing, later had 2 piece fairing
    1981 Change to DM900R frame prefix

    As confused as ever.

    The fairing was changed by one of the previous owners, probably to ease maintenance, or it was dropped, or the fairing being as fragile as it is wore out.
    Allen

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    I was going google-eyed! I might have known that you'd seen the list.

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    Hi Allen,

    If it helps I have an original and unrestored MHR with the following details:

    - V reg (April 1980)
    - Frame 90028*
    - No lock on petrol cap
    - One piece fairing
    - Gold wheels

    Hope this helps

    Alan
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    Hi MartinW,
    It's a great list, but could do with a lot of editing and sorting.

    Allen

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    Allen,

    My MHR was first registered in April '80.

    Frame number is DM860SS*900291

    No lock on the petrol cap.

    Gold FPS with polished ali rim sections.

    For what it's worth the fairing on your bike looks like a much later one. It may be worth e-mailing John Fallon at Made In Italy - he might be able to confirm some things for you, but to be honest when it comes to Dukes of this vintage I think what went on bikes depended on which suppliers they'd paid that month!

    Good luck with it.

    Kenny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deputydawg View Post
    Allen,

    My MHR was first registered in April '80.

    Frame number is DM860SS*900291

    No lock on the petrol cap.

    Gold FPS with polished ali rim sections.

    For what it's worth the fairing on your bike looks like a much later one. It may be worth e-mailing John Fallon at Made In Italy - he might be able to confirm some things for you, but to be honest when it comes to Dukes of this vintage I think what went on bikes depended on which suppliers they'd paid that month!

    Good luck with it.

    Kenny.
    Amazing - Kenny, yours and mine are only 4 frame numbers apart! I don't know why I'm exited about that but I am...

    And my wheels are also gold with alloy rim sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 900triple View Post
    Amazing - Kenny, yours and mine are only 4 frame numbers apart! I don't know why I'm exited about that but I am...

    And my wheels are also gold with alloy rim sections.
    Hi Kenny and Alan,
    Thanks for the information on your bikes. Looks like you both have MHR's from the 100 built in 1979 and sold as 1980 , but now I am even more confused than ever. You both say you have Gold FPS wheels with polished ali rims. Where these original? The reason I ask, is that Ian Falloon says in at least one of his books that they only changed to these wheels sometime in 1980. If both of yours came with the FPS wheels, then the change must have been in 1979 on your group of 100, and not in the next batch of 447. Hopefully between all the Ducati forums where I have posted this, I will get enough info to figure out at what frame number the different changes happened. As I get more info, I will include it in this post to make it a little easier for future restorers and owners of these great bikes.
    I have been in contact with John Fallon, but he is as confused as me with the DM900SS frame numbers, but also thinks it is a 1980 with 1 piece fairing.
    I also have to agree with you Kenny on the possibility of the factory using what they had paid for that month. Ducati was in a bad place in 1979/1980.

    Thanks again
    Allen
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    Quote Originally Posted by 900triple View Post
    Amazing - Kenny, yours and mine are only 4 frame numbers apart! I don't know why I'm exited about that but I am!
    David Burnie's is also quite close too Alan - but his frame has brackets for side panels which is odd!

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    Allen as far as I know the fps wheels were original, but you see a lot of pictures of early mhrs with Speedlines. My Darmah SS is a W reg 1980 and has Speedlines (although I use Oscams from a late Mille for day to day use!).

    Kenny.

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    Just an update,
    From other forums, it looks like there were around 200 MHRs with the DM900SS prefix. The highest one I have found so far is DM900SS 901183

    Alle

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    Hi all,
    I would like to thank all who replied on this forum to this post including those who contacted me offline, and a special vote of thanks to Robert who is responsible for the Bevel heaven frame number registry- there is a square case registry too.
    Bevel Heaven - Vintage Ducati Bevel Drive Motorcycle Extravaganza.
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    click on data index top left navi.
    With Roberts help I was able to track down 2 MHRs with slightly higher frame numbers than mine. 901051 is a 1980 and has the 1 piece fairing, and 901067, late 1980 early 1981 which came with the 2 piece fairing. So we have managed to get down to 16 frame numbers where in between, Ducati changed from the 1 piece to the 2 piece fairing. If there is anybody out there whose frame number is between 901051 and 901067, please do respond to this post and maybe we can tie down the change to a specific frame number.
    I can now source the 1 piece fairing and the few other bits and pieces I need and get down to doing the restoration. Photo's will be posted here once it is done.

    Thanks
    Allen

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    Default 1980 mhr

    Hi Allen
    My MHR is a 1980 model*90059?*, has a one piece fairing, lockable fuel cap and has gold FPS wheels.
    Hope this helps some.
    John

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    Default Mhr low frame number with side panel brackets

    Quote Originally Posted by deputydawg View Post
    David Burnie's is also quite close too Alan - but his frame has brackets for side panels which is odd!
    Hi Kenny,

    Very odd, but I have found one #312 with side cover brackets. Could this be the same one?

    Cheers
    Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukenut1 View Post
    Hi Kenny,

    Very odd, but I have found one #312 with side cover brackets. Could this be the same one?

    Cheers
    Allen
    No not the same bike, David's frame number is slightly higher than 312, but I'm within 5 of 312 and with side panel bracket's.

    Scott

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    May I recommend the application form V888 'Request by an individual for information about a vehicle'.

    It will give you the entire history of the bike - including all previous owners and all for a fiver.

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    Default Ducati 900 MHR Help to identify

    Hi
    I am looking at buying a W reg 1981 Ducati 900 believed to be a MHR from a search I think the frame no 900565 and engine no 090980 but not seen yet the bike is painted in what looks like none original JPS black with gold piping the bike is a barn find and will need complete over haul but looks complete and with a good clean wonít look too bad
    How will I identify if itís an original MHR and what sort of value should I be looking at

    Thanks in advance for any help

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    If its an original MHR it will have the narrow 900SS frame. The fakes have a Darmah frame which has wider tubes and flattened ends to the front down tubes. What's it worth? MHRs don't fetch the same money as SS models - so in good condition it may be worth £15000, but you may have to spend a lot to get it into that condition. Make sure that the engine turns over. We'd love to see some pictures!

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